B-Dag … no image

Home Forums Contemporary Daguerreotypy B-Dag … no image

Viewing 8 posts - 1 through 8 (of 8 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • #7616
    yowyip
    Participant

    Hi There,

    I tried my hand at making a Becquerel in the summer, and was successful. This time around though things arent going so well.

    I’m doing a studio still-life shot with 3 X 1000 watt studio lights. One with a blue gel. One bounced. But no image. I’m on my 4th attempt.

    Exposure times have ranged from 3 minutes – 15 minutes… nothing. Not even a vague image.

    Developing time has varied, from 2 hours – 8 hours under a hot 1000 watt light (with a fan on it). No latent image appears (as it did under the sun in the summer) within the first few minutes.

    So I am wondering, if it is perhaps my polishing or plates that is to blame.

    Sensitization appears to be working (a dark first cycle magenta). But perhaps I have not polished my plates enough to “chemically activate” the silver ?

    Also these are new, electro-plated brass plates. The last plates I used before were clad copper plates. Could this be the culprit of poorly made electro-plates ? Has anyone else used plates made by Zappfe silver in seattle? They look fine to me, however.

    Any other possibilities for no image at all ?

    #9426
    Pobboravsky
    Participant

    What f/stop was used on the lens?

    Subject to lens distance?

    EV (exposure value) measurement using a light meter?

    Irv

    #9428
    yowyip
    Participant

    What f/stop was used on the lens?

    f.8.0

    Subject to lens distance?

    not sure, distance from lens to subject is about 1.5 meters

    EV (exposure value) measurement using a light meter?

    10.6

    Irv

    not sure how to calculate this…

    #9430
    yowyip
    Participant

    Also the studio lights I’m using are tungsten photo-flows. Should I try using daylight strobes instead? (those are the only other lights I have available right now).

    #9432
    yowyip
    Participant

    Also the studio lights I’m using are tungsten photo-flows. Should I try using daylight strobes instead? (those are the only other lights I have available right now).

    #9435
    Pobboravsky
    Participant

    Thanks for the info.

    A. f/8 does not let much light through. I would open the lens to its widest aperture. [f/5.6 doubles the amount of light getting to the plate; f/4.5 triples it.] Use the fastest lens available.

    B. Move the lights closer to the subject, if possible.

    C. A very rough exposure estimate for EV=10.6, @ f/5.6 is 30 minutes. Moving the lights closer would increase the EV (light intensity) and shorten the exposure time.

    D. If the subject has a bright white it will appear first during Becq-dev’ment. I forgot to ask the color of the filter used for Becq-D??

    Good luck,

    Irv

    #9438
    yowyip
    Participant

    Thanks for the quick response !

    I just tried a 35 minute exposure, and only got the tiniest of the white area, still totally underexposed, but at least I have something. Will try a full hour (good thing its a still life), and cross my fingers.

    Iam using rubylith for the developing. Whats a good guestimate of how long for the developing? Is 8 hours too long ?

    thanks again!

    #9440
    Pobboravsky
    Participant

    You are making progress. I don’t know what changes you have made aside from increasing the exposure to 35 min. Please include f/# of lens and EV (exposure value). Also dev’g time. Please describe polishing steps.

    Iodizing to a yellow with a reddish tinge may provide a bit more sensitivity.

    Increasing the Becq-dev’g time will help.

    Guessing that 35 min exp should have given a stronger image but not knowing what changes you made makes my guessing harder.

    Good luck,

    Irv

Viewing 8 posts - 1 through 8 (of 8 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.

Return to the Top