B-Dag … no image
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December 7, 2010 at 7:14 pm #7616yowyipParticipant
Hi There,
I tried my hand at making a Becquerel in the summer, and was successful. This time around though things arent going so well.
I’m doing a studio still-life shot with 3 X 1000 watt studio lights. One with a blue gel. One bounced. But no image. I’m on my 4th attempt.
Exposure times have ranged from 3 minutes – 15 minutes… nothing. Not even a vague image.
Developing time has varied, from 2 hours – 8 hours under a hot 1000 watt light (with a fan on it). No latent image appears (as it did under the sun in the summer) within the first few minutes.
So I am wondering, if it is perhaps my polishing or plates that is to blame.
Sensitization appears to be working (a dark first cycle magenta). But perhaps I have not polished my plates enough to “chemically activate” the silver ?
Also these are new, electro-plated brass plates. The last plates I used before were clad copper plates. Could this be the culprit of poorly made electro-plates ? Has anyone else used plates made by Zappfe silver in seattle? They look fine to me, however.
Any other possibilities for no image at all ?
December 7, 2010 at 8:23 pm #9426PobboravskyParticipantWhat f/stop was used on the lens?
Subject to lens distance?
EV (exposure value) measurement using a light meter?
Irv
December 7, 2010 at 9:31 pm #9428yowyipParticipantWhat f/stop was used on the lens?
f.8.0
Subject to lens distance?
not sure, distance from lens to subject is about 1.5 meters
EV (exposure value) measurement using a light meter?
10.6
Irv
not sure how to calculate this…
December 7, 2010 at 9:47 pm #9430yowyipParticipantAlso the studio lights I’m using are tungsten photo-flows. Should I try using daylight strobes instead? (those are the only other lights I have available right now).
December 7, 2010 at 10:23 pm #9432yowyipParticipantAlso the studio lights I’m using are tungsten photo-flows. Should I try using daylight strobes instead? (those are the only other lights I have available right now).
December 7, 2010 at 11:24 pm #9435PobboravskyParticipantThanks for the info.
A. f/8 does not let much light through. I would open the lens to its widest aperture. [f/5.6 doubles the amount of light getting to the plate; f/4.5 triples it.] Use the fastest lens available.
B. Move the lights closer to the subject, if possible.
C. A very rough exposure estimate for EV=10.6, @ f/5.6 is 30 minutes. Moving the lights closer would increase the EV (light intensity) and shorten the exposure time.
D. If the subject has a bright white it will appear first during Becq-dev’ment. I forgot to ask the color of the filter used for Becq-D??
Good luck,
Irv
December 8, 2010 at 4:56 am #9438yowyipParticipantThanks for the quick response !
I just tried a 35 minute exposure, and only got the tiniest of the white area, still totally underexposed, but at least I have something. Will try a full hour (good thing its a still life), and cross my fingers.
Iam using rubylith for the developing. Whats a good guestimate of how long for the developing? Is 8 hours too long ?
thanks again!
December 8, 2010 at 7:19 pm #9440PobboravskyParticipantYou are making progress. I don’t know what changes you have made aside from increasing the exposure to 35 min. Please include f/# of lens and EV (exposure value). Also dev’g time. Please describe polishing steps.
Iodizing to a yellow with a reddish tinge may provide a bit more sensitivity.
Increasing the Becq-dev’g time will help.
Guessing that 35 min exp should have given a stronger image but not knowing what changes you made makes my guessing harder.
Good luck,
Irv
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